When I started my leadership podcast almost 10 years ago, I had a very simple goal – I wanted to create a platform where I could get the chance to talk with some very smart and really cool people. That’s why the first guest I had on the “Leadership Biz Cafe” podcast was Guy Kawasaki.
But I have to admit all these years later, I never thought that the journey I started with this podcast would open the door for me to have a one-on-one conversation with Tom Peters.
Without question, Tom is one of the world’s most pre-eminent leadership thinkers, if not also a leadership rebel in his decades-long pursuit to educate and persuade leaders everywhere that at its heart, leadership is all about people under your care and doing right by them.
This is a must-listen episode if you want to better understand not only what it takes to lead right now, but in response to the inevitable changes that will completely transform the way we work going forward. And as an extra bonus, you’ll even hear Tom talk about something he hasn’t spoken of before my conversation with him for this podcast (I bet that’s piqued your curiosity!)
And to give you a taste of what you’ll find in this episode, here’s some of my favourite Tom Peters gems he shared over the course of our conversation:
- “You don’t know more than two percent of the person you’re talking about to. And besides they are different on Tuesday than they were on Monday. And it’ll be different again on Wednesday.”
- “The goal during the pandemic is family and community first, productivity third. And of course, which is true of all the things we’re talking about, if that’s the way I treat you, I’m going to have more productivity coming from you than I would under any other circumstances.”
- “There are no tombstones with net worth on them. That is not the measure.”
- “Be kind. Be caring. Be patient. Be forgiving. Be positive. Be present. Walk in the other person’s shoes.”
- “They are a million strokes of luck along the way, and you do your best and try to be helpful.”
When Tom’s assistant reached out to me saying that Tom was interested in appearing on my podcast, I couldn’t believe it. As you listen to this episode, you will no doubt clearly hear the excitement and joy I had of being able to talk about leadership with Tom.
So I hope you’ll take the time to check out this episode and please do share me with me your favourite insights you learned from my conversation with Tom.
Noteworthy links:
- Buy Tom Peters’ latest (and last) book “Excellence Now – Extreme Humanism” on Amazon*.
- Learn more about Tom and his work – tompeters.com.
- Read my piece I talked with Tom about – “What Will Your Leadership Legacy Be?”
*Sponsored link used to support this podcast.
Thank you for sharing your interview with Tom Peters. He is one of my favorite Leadership gurus as well.
My pleasure, Jordan. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
A great interview and conversation Tanveer. He is so down to earth and you rolled so well with his open, engaging style. I felt like I was sitting with a iced vodka in my hand with a couple blue cheese olives mixed in.
Excellence is the next five minutes or it is nothing at all — what a great way to move through life. There’s always an opportunity to do it better — not to beat ourselves up but to be a better person, help people more, challenge ourselves more. Simple and powerful.
Love Coach K’s quote about not knowing the team each game until it occurs.
Thanks
Thanks Jake; I’m glad you enjoyed it. My goal with all these interviews is for it to feel very conversational and for listeners to feel like they are just sitting at a table listening to my conversation with my guest. So I appreciate you letting me know I succeeded in that regard. Tom and I had quite a conversation about Coach K before the episode, so I’m glad his quote resonated with you as Tom and I certainly enjoyed sharing our respective favourite lessons from him on how to successfully lead others. Thanks again, Jake!
Tanveer, I have another favorite coach that I made a brief “Jake on Change” video for my series on LinkedIn that I thought you’d enjoy….the legendary John Wooden: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robertjakejacobs_leadership-coaching-easierfasterbetter-activity-6779750841755742208-ws0t
Thanks for sharing, Jake. I’ll have to check that out.
John Wooden is also a favorite of mine!